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Whether he was the first Doelman to have this coat of arms is doubtful. There are earlier records showing a similar coat of arms. It belonged to a Cornelis Michielsz Doelman, alderman until 1566. It is unknown how Frans is related to this Cornelis.
In the Armorial Général, the very impressive heraldic work by J.B. Rietstap, the Doelman coat of arms is described as you can see below.
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| Excerpt from the Armorial Général |
I am not sure that this description fits both coat of arms shown in this post. I am not even certain what it means...
When the last owner of the Doelman's farm died on Dec. 4, 1916, he was buried in Maasland. His name was Adrianus Doelman and he lived to be 79 years old. It is said that his coat of arms is part of his tombstone. So I better go there before weathering makes it impossible to see how it looks like. But I trust that also there the man's face at the top of the coat of arms resembles the face of a Doelman. Because that's what Granny told me. And if ever there was a truthful woman, it was Granny!
*Contrary to popular belief a coat of arms does not automatically imply nobility. But rest assured, even today it is possible to design a coat of arms for your family and have it registered. In the Netherlands registration is possible via the services of the Central Bureau of Genealogy (CBG) or the Dutch Genealogical Society (NGV).
It's pretty smart though Peter. We've got one on the wall for fun. Our motto 'perseverando' is probably shared by hundreds of other families. I think loosely translated, it means we stick at it!
ReplyDeleteHi Peter, I've often wondered about those coats of arms available for sale online, whether they're accurate. You are fortunate to be able to pinpoint your family's shields and to see historic renditions in a window and tombstone.
ReplyDelete@Little Nell
ReplyDeleteIt also means 'hold on to it' meaning that it shouldn't be thrown away. It possibly belonged to an overworked dustman?
@Wendy
You can buy anything on the internet, even academic titles. The sellers are usually swindlers. So don't spend any money on those offers!
Thanks for visiting!
The man on top is funny. I didn't know they played soccer in the 17th century :-)
ReplyDeleteNice to read your new blog. In Holland families with coat of arms are proud of them and two came down the track, one from each of my parents. I guess one could even collect them as we have a lot of ancestors. The fist thing you do is have a ring made with your family coat of arms and mostly they are blue or black and sometimes I've even seen green ones. It's fun when you buy sealing wax, heat it up, melt a blob of it on a back of an envelope and press your ring in it. I guess in the olden days one didn't put a sender on the envelope, just your coat of arms seal and so the receiver would know where it came from. Isn't that right Peter?
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ReplyDeleteI don't know about not mentioning a sender. But you may very well be right. They certainly used the seal on the letter.
@Rob
My sense of humor apparently is under developed. The soccer player escapes me :(
Doelman: Your ancestor must have been a goalkeeper (start laugh track) (like I said: name jokes are not so funny).
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ReplyDeleteAaahh, thanks for reviving my sense of humor. But the story doesn't end there. She was married to a gentleman named De Langen... And I'll come back to that later, in my other blog.
Very interesting! My father was also named Cornelis Doelman (b.1951).. and was named after his Grandfather - also Cornelis Doelman. We have a framed coat or arms that has been passed down.
ReplyDeleteHi Rachel, am I wrong in assuming that your second name is Andrea? And that you live in New Zealand? Please send me an email and I'll explain: patmiebies at gmail dot com.
ReplyDeleteI came across your blog searching for our crest on Google.
ReplyDeleteMy name is Adam Doelman, and Rachel, who has commented above is my cousin.
It'd be interesting to know if there is a family connection there!
There certainly is! Please send me an email: patmiebies at gmail dot com.
DeleteI came across this looking for the coat of arms to show a colleague.
ReplyDeleteGreetings from one Doelman to another!
Hi Adam, did we ever establish how our families connect? Please mail me at patmiebies at gmail dot com.
DeleteBest regards
Adam's dad is Max Doelman, who is my father's youngest brother. Also in NZ
ReplyDeleteHi Rachel,
ReplyDeleteThe granddad of Max is Cornelis/Kees Doelman. And he is the brother of my grandma Antje. So Max is my 2nd cousin once removed. And Cornelis/Kees is your great grandfather, if I am right. Anyway thanks for your reaction and clarification!
Peter
Yes, correct! Adam is my cousin, Max is my uncle and Pieter Paul was our Opa
DeleteIt is nice to know that our family ties span the world.
DeleteGreetings from Holland,
Peter
Hi
ReplyDeleteI'm another Doelman born in NZ but currently living in Sydney. My father was born in Maasland, JAN doelman. The family farmed in Maasland. Cheers Trudy
Oh that's really interesting! I thought I knew all the Doelmans in NZ !
DeleteHi Trudy,
ReplyDeleteAnd your mothers maiden name was Geestman?
Kind regards,
Peter